Max Payne 3 New York Minute Hardcore - Success / Failure History #1 (Attempt #1-11)

Hello to Max Payne 3 Gamer,

In this blog I will talk about one of the hardest mode in Arcade Mode - New York Minute Hardcore. New York Minute Hardcore could be a painful for every challenger since they can not die a single time or do something wrong like go to far before they kill all enemy and just let their partner get kill, but as far as I know, the most pain is not all of this, it is - glitch.

About glitch, from now I have found out those and some from others.

  • Explosion bonus lost (fixed)
  • Get stuck in cover (fixed)
  • When melee the clock not stopped and other can shoot you (sometimes happen to me)
  • lag (some magic...)
  • camera views problem during payne moment/others
  • shoot magically missed the enemy when you direct hit them (Invisible enemy?)
  • Gun not shoot when you press fire button
  • Cut-scene not loaded - others (I haven't experience this problem at the moment)

Well, we have found out some glitch in New York Minute Hardcore, how about the most glitch Chapter?

For me, the winner is Chapter 7.In my recent walkthrough of New York Minute Hardcore, Chapter 7 have lag issues and of course - Glitch!

The lag issues is quite strong during this scene (take a look of the photo, cut from a video walkthrough by other users). After you shoot all the enemy (broken window),when you walk out of cover and the sawn-off enemy come in. Magically, the window fixed itself! And the game just become very lag...(2 out of 2 in my recent walkthrough)

When you saw some video on youtube or other discuss board about New York Minute Hardcore, many of them may write the word "failure" or some other word or foul language about fail to attempt. I understand this due you have to finish this mode without a single fail or die in a whole walkthrough and at least it take more than 3 hours to complete it (well,the cut-scene may spend you more time than your gameplay...), so it true that you failed and have to take another few hours to finish it, which is painful.


Example:


http://www.trueachievements.com/a164205/the-shadows-rushed-me-achievement.htm - Glitch,tips and more
http://www.xbox360achievements.org/forum/showthread.php?t=412653 - Glitch

http://psnprofiles.com/forums/topic/3113-post-your-nymhc-failures/page__pid__68742#entry68742 - New York Minute Hardcore Failure Record


...and so many others...

And that the reason why "The shadows rushed me"(New York Minute Hardcore) become the hardest achievement/trophy in 2012...

Read the full article in the link: http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news-3017-X360A-s-Achievement-Awards-2012---The-Best--Worst--Hardest---Easiest-Achievements-of-the-Year.html

So how about the overall, how many gamer done it? I get the information for Xbox360 and PS3.

TrueAchievements(xbox360) - 27,800  gamers, 4.09%(1,138) gamers finished New York Minute. In these 1,138  gamers, 23.2%(264) finished New York Minute Hardcore.

PSNProfiles(PS3) - 71,233 gamers, 3.13%(2,231) gamers finished New York Minute. In these 2,231 gamers, 36.5%(814) finished New York Minute Hardcore.

But if count it as a individual achievement, completely disaster. Only 0.95%(xbox360),1.14%(PS3) gamer get this achievements...But since you have to first complete New York Minute first, so the ratio look not so bad but is hard enough for gamer...

Enough talk about that, let move on to the main part, my experience of New York Minute Hardcore.


At the moment, I have played 11 times of New York Minute Hardcore, only 5 times success.(45.5%), a short list of my run below.
Attempt # Success/Fail/Die Finished time(m:s) Time Remain(m:s)
1 Fail - -
2 Die - -
3 Die - -
4 Die - -
5 Success 102:49.72 ~40 mins
6 Success 83:43.36 59:49.30
7 Die - -
8 Success 79:28.14 65:28.91
9 Success 78:27.95 74:45.58
10 Die - -
11 Success 80:11.75 77:16.83



I also make a record at some chapter to see how many time remained, mostly in Chapter 6 Part 2, Chapter 9, Chapter 11, Chapter 13 and Chapter 14, see the list below.
Chapter/Success Attempt #5(21st Sep,12) #6(12th Jan,13) #8(15th Jan,13) #9(8th Feb,13) #11(23-24 Feb,13)
Chapter 1 04:19.4
Chapter 2 09:02.0
Chapter 3 14:23.8
Chapter 4 Part 1 18:15.8
Chapter 4 Part 2 21:45.6
Chapter 5 Part 1 21:46.03 28:42.6
Chapter 5 Part 2 31:22.8
Chapter 6 Part 1 34:50.2
Chapter 6 Part 2 24:51.67 25:17.86 28:26.32 31:17.01 34:48.23
Chapter 7 40:24.7
Chapter 8 45:48.1
Chapter 9 31:23.44 38:28.76 43:10.67 47:35.46
Chapter 10 50:41.41 55:34.73
Chapter 11 46:19.98 49:56.12 55:37.66 61:01.58
Chapter 12 57:55.97 63:44.56
Chapter 13 36:27.83 54:13.04 58:58.22 65:10.10 70:23.26
Chapter 14 Final 59:49.30 65:28.91 74:45.58 77:16.83

I test this mode just after I finished "A New York Minute" achievement, but due I don't have time to finish(not the new york minute), I end up at the start of Chapter 6. My first real attempt of New York Minute Hardcore is on 20th September,2012.(Real one)A month later when I get  the new york minute Achievement. Well, first 4 attempt is in the same day but since I don't know the rule clearly or because of bug, I die at last, more detail will explained in every attempt.

#1 - Failed in Chapter 2 - 20th September,2012

Oh, this run fail too quickly if I talk about it now. But being my first real attempt, since New York Minute Hardcore only can use free aim, and at that time I mostly play Soft Lock version New York Minute, so I have difficulty about free aim since nothing can help you to aim and kill the enemy.

Fail: In the helicopter scene where you have to chase Giovanna and save her before Comando Sombra get her or kill her. Yep, like I said in last paragraph, since I don't have enough experience in free aim, at the middle of the chase, when I don't have bullet time, Giovanna get caught again, so failed for my first time. 

Like this:

#2 - Failed in Chapter 5 Part 1 - 20th September,2012

Fail: Killed by the propane tank when I don't have full health lol. But I have to say, when you have to deal with a lot enemies around you is just not that easy. This die is my fault, I shouldn't shoot the propane tank that in front of me amd make myself get killed.

#3 - Failed in Chapter 6 Part 1 - 20th September,2012

Die while fighting the well protected soldier and without any Painkiller.

I haven't figure out how to kill him faster at that time. From my memory, I use a two-handed weapon/a single handed weapon (no dual wield) to deal with him,since I don't have enough Painkiller, so I die at last, another failure on that day, already 3 in a row!

#4 - Failed in Chapter 8 - 20th September,2012

Start doing better but still not good enough to play New York Minute Hardcore, but this one is a little bit unusual than before.

Before I enter last stand, the screen is having a small lag issue.When I get shot and enter last stand, more strange thing happen - I can't see my bullet point. Although the camera may try to help me, but since the bullet point is lost, I die at last with the lag issue...

#5 - 1st Success! - 21st September,2012
After a awful day, I decided to go on for my 5th try. Since I got a little more experience in New York Minute Hardcore and free aim skill, this time I can perform a little bit better.

In this walkthrough, I am nervous and have to take a big break when in the summary screen of every chapter and watch some other users video about New York Minute Hardcore in youtube, doing something to cool myself down when ready for the next chapter, look like this is a huge project lol !

The boss fight is the part that I scared the most since I can be killed in a single grenade by Becker and I already experience this once in New York Minute (Soft Lock), so this part I also have to rest for some time and try to find the way to finish this part.

At last, when I finish that part and kill Becker, my nervous and worry are all gone! And I am going to enjoy for my first time for finishing New York Minute Hardcore! Really, a milestone and I want to cry for a little bit at that moment...

So here is my first success run...

#6 - 2nd Success! - 12th Jan,2013

Three months later for another attempt of New York Minute Hardcore, the explosion bonus is back but we get stuck in cover, get stuck in cover become one of the annoying problem in New York Minute and New York Minute Hardcore. Since you can't do anything when you get stuck in cover, you have to try to roll out and avoid get hit.

Get stuck is happen to me mostly in Chapter 13 and Chapter 14. For Chapter 13,near the end and the boss fight, the stage have lag issue, that also make the get stuck problem happen too. In chapter 14 the boss fight with becker, get stuck fewer than Chapter 13, but still important to move and make sure don't get kill by the grenade launcher too.

On the past three months, I gain a lot more free aim experience and memory of every chapter. Of course, some chapter I still not doing well(Chapter 3,10,12). So in those chapter I have to spend some more time to finish it.

For this walkthrough, I use different way to perform it - aim for speed this time. That mean as fast as I can, I only can't expect that I can finish quite fast and have lot more time left than before, this also make me get to the top of New York Minute Hardcore leaderboard too.

Check out this video for the very last part of the New York Minute Hardcore walkthrough:

And the blog about this walkthrough:
https://chrisli128gpnetwork.blogspot.com/2013/01/max-payne-3-new-york-minute-hardcore.html

#7 - Failed in Chapter 12 - 14th Jan,2013

Woo, this is something that unexpected, but if you remember what I said before, Chapter 12 is one of the chapter that I am not good at.

At the beginning of this chapter I already did not so good, bad at grenade launcher and can't kill many enemies. If you talk about how I die...In fact, I get killed by the shotgun in somewhere I don't know due to the wall block my view point so that I die at last, wasted about  2 hours!

And I started record the video in Chapter 11 but failed in this Chapter, so embarrass...

#8 - 3rd Success! - 15th Jan,2013

The whole walkthrough is good and since I aim for speed this time, not so many melee, mostly headshot or so on, good use of the propane tank and the grenade launcher, build up near 60 mins at last and finish the whole walkthrough in less than 80 mins for my first time!

#9 - 4th Success! - 8th Feb,2013

Recent walkthrough in Midnight time of my country.

This whole walkthrough is playing while the Max Payne 3 Multiplayer is on of that day. (Different time zone), and it finished in 4 hours since I am watching the live stream and playing New York Minute Hardcore at the same time. I start this walkthrough in 1 hour before the event start and finish it after the event end... so total is about 4 hours lol

Like my last 2 run, I aim for speed, but this time include a little more challenge, I try to perform my best like what I did in New York Minute. The only trouble I get  - glitch in Chapter 7.

The glitch point have already show at the beginning of this blog.The lag issues is quite strong during this scene (take a look of the photo, cut from a video walkthrough by other users). After you shoot all the enemy (broken window),when you walk out of cover and the sawn-off enemy come in. Magically, the window fixed itself! And the game just become very lag...


Other Chapter is smooth and without big problem. At first I don't expect that I can play faster than last time since I got lot more melee this time, but when the Summary screen show up still...I am surprise to finish it in 78.5 mins, the fastest time I have ever make and have more than 70 mins remain time, just woo...

I don't believe it too much, but I know that I have play through New York Minute for nearly 8 months, story memory, free aim setting and so on, that help me success to make a fast time with more time left at last.

Yep, you may find that New York Minute Hardcore is very hard, but at least I have some fun from it! I love the challenge lol.

The final time with the time that I left on the left side of the screen:

#10 - Failed in Chapter 12 - 22nd Feb,2013

Well, like the others fail example I mention at the beginning of this blog. But simply this time is my own fault. The grenade unlucky touch the wall that in front of me about few meters, and then blow up, the "dead" screen then appear lol... When I have nearly full health.

This playthrough is one of my top record but unlucky failed by my fault. On the other hand, I felt sleepy during Chapter 12 since I pause in a chapter (Summary Screen) for a long time, so is not that good for controlling...(This is the thing unexpected)

#11 - 5th Success! - 23-24 Feb,2013

Even I have successful this time. But it is one of my worst New York Minute Hardcore experience.

My first last stand is in Chapter 2, earlier than I expected. But the whole walkthrough is not very good, although I have 77:16.83 left at last, still feel not too happy.

The reason about that is many time I nearly or almost dead, especially in Chapter 14. At the beginning, when I get up to the second floor, if I get one more shot(without any pain killer), I will die and have to start the whole walkthrough once again. Luckily, shootdodge save my live this time. But since this thing happen affect my mood of the remaining part, I did not so good in Chapter 14, only near overall average time but lower than my average time (7:53.57[+1]). Doing not bad in Becker fight and the chasing part at last.

Overall, I get about 5 last stand, that is the most in my recent New York Minute Hardcore walkthrough, and of course I take a lot painkiller, some chapter even without pain killer at the middle and the last part lol, so I don't feel quite happy at last.

I have to say, this is one of my hardest New York Minute Hardcore run, and this time I aim for Maximum time(like chapter by chapter, New York Minute style), look at the time showed below... 
Chapter #11(23-24 Feb,13) Time in New York Minute
Chapter 1 04:19.4 4:19.4
Chapter 2 09:02.0 5:42.6
Chapter 3 14:23.8 6:21.8
Chapter 4 Part 1 18:15.8 4:52.0
Chapter 4 Part 2 21:45.6 4:29.8
Chapter 5 Part 1 28:42.6 7:57.0
Chapter 5 Part 2 31:22.8 3:40.2
Chapter 6 Part 1 34:50.2 4:27.4
Chapter 6 Part 2 34:48.23 0:58.0
Chapter 7 40:24.7 6:36.5^
Chapter 8 45:48.1 6:23.4
Chapter 9 47:35.46 2:47.4
Chapter 10 55:34.73 8:59.27^
Chapter 11 61:01.58 6:26.85
Chapter 12 63:44.56 3:42.98
Chapter 13 70:23.26 7:38.70
Chapter 14 Final 77:16.83 7:53.57

* From Chapter 2 every chapter add 1 min(Since New York Minute start from 1 min)
^ mean better than my New York Minute Record

Look like I lost some time in final 2 chapters, each chapter lost about 2-3 mins, but some doing quite well. I face the lag issue in the same part of Chapter 7 again. And I lost about 30 seconds in Chapter 5 Part 1 to wait for the speech to come out after I melee the last enemy before enter the dock lol, otherwise I still have a chance to get more time...

But seriously, doing quite bad in Chapter 14, I have to find some way to get back to my average score...(>9 mins).

So, this is my final score of this Painful run: (3rd fastest run)

In my next walkthrough of New York Minute Hardcore, I will use a recording hardware to record my complete walkthrough, so stay tuned!

If you are looking for New York Minute Hardcore tips, you can look from here:
http://www.trueachievements.com/a164205/the-shadows-rushed-me-achievement.htm
or my Walkthrough:
https://www.trueachievements.com/game/Max-Payne-3/walkthrough/7

Same blog can be find in here(you can comment if you have the account there) https://www.trueachievements.com/gamerblogcomment.aspx?gamerblogid=38237

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